No problem; let’s tool up half of those machines for .38 Special and increase output. I would postulate that in 1906, Justin, who might have been marketing director for Winchester, would have renamed the .25ACP to something like the .25 Winchester Special (or some such) and given a slightly more pronounced rim than merely being semi rimmed case. As you can see the 32 makes more since. If the .25 ACP had enjoyed half the popularity of the .22 Long Rifle there would probably be slew of bullet designs aimed at (no pun intended) small game hunting, self defense, dedicated target shooting, etc…just like the .22 Long Rifle.

It should come as no surprise the Ruger name is synonymous with value, and its’ AR-556 looks to fit this mold as an entry-level AR-15 with a reasonable MSRP. The cartridge was centerfire with a small rim for extraction and it boasted a 50-grain bullet going out at just over 700 feet per second. The .25 ACP achieved widespread use after Colt introduced the Browning-designed Fabrique 1905 vest pocket (sometimes referred to as 1906) to the United States as the Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket.
Guns like the Beretta 950, the Colt 1908, Baby Browning, etc. I’m familiar with the term and concept of ‘mouse guns’, but to call a .25 a mouse gun is to invite the mice you shoot with them to go away, heal up, and invite their friends to come help invade your house. I’ll poke around. High profile police shootings have much influence in today’s civilian self-defense mindset, whether we would like to admit it or not. As an armed civilian, there is a lot of merit to the “get off me gun,” and small autos can fill that role, but I think a bit more juice is needed than the 25 offers. Maybe I just don’t know what I’m missing! The .25 ACP achieved widespread use after Colt introduced the Browning-designed Fabrique 1905 vest pocket (sometimes referred to as 1906) to the United States as the Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket.

Justin, your post got me thinking of what a rimmed “25 Long and 25 Magnum” would look like. Both were six and a half feet tall and high 200s in weight. American manufacturers stepped into fill the gap with cheap, pot-metal guns of dubious reliability, safety, and handling. Thanks for the insight, John! I have been to 2 autopsys in my life. The .25 ACP is tiny. [2] In the late twentieth century, Bowen Classic Arms produced a custom Smith & Wesson revolver in .25 ACP.[3]. . To understand why the .25 lost its mojo, we should understand why it existed in the first place.

Was it truly automatic? But I sure as heck think it would be neat! But what else would this mean? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.25_ACP&oldid=983377051, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, "Quarter bore" (from being 1/4 inch in caliber), This page was last edited on 13 October 2020, at 22:14. A handful of prototype Model 24s chambered in .22 are still floating around the market and command a sky-high premium among collectors.

When people came to the store looking for ‘defense loads’ for a .25–some of them actually being serious–we would discuss the fact that if you shoot somebody with a .25, and they find out about it, they’re likely to come back and kick your butt. We’d be in the same market situation as today, except minus the rimfire manufacturing peculiarities. They wouldn’t have to have that cruddy, waxy lube all over them. From the turn of the 20th century until recently, snubnosed revolvers and pocket 25 ACP pistols were very popular. I want to like the 25 ACP, but my experience can best be summed up at this: it repeatedly failed to penetrate the end of a soup can from approximately 10 feet. Thank God for international calling plans, because she was all over that device like cheese on burgers. They were brought to the surface recently by Chris Baker’s “Mouse Gun” series. I took the idea and expanded/visualized it. Since Justin is only a couple years older than me, I have a feeling that in 1905, he was just a twinkle in his great-granfather’s eye. were just about all there was available - and being chambered for the little .22 and .25 kept the size small - as was desired. We look at it as antiquated and odd…kind of like we’d look at a gun chambered for. $110.00: 0 $110.00 $125.00: Read on to find out. I have Not One .25 that did not go bang. I, too, would prefer this alternate universe, for all the reasons others have mentioned, and one more; I live in California. This isn’t the case with centerfire ammunition. The rimfire .22 LR was always popular in rifles, but small pistols chambered for the round weren’t so common. The .25 Winchester would have one way interchangeability with the future .25 Winchester Magnum. The budget-friendly line of American-made Leupold VX-Freedom riflescopes found a welcome audience last year, but 2020 sees even more interesting additions to the family, with our hands-down favorite being the illuminated-reticle FireDot line. I always thought that was neat. . I guess this is as good a time as any to say: I knew there would be some attachment to the .22 if for no other reason that it’s popularity.

Could not agree with Justin more and I would be most happy living in a universe where the 25 acp is king over the 22 short/long/long rifle that ‘died on the vine’. A good 25 ACP pistol was easy to hide, easy to fire, and very affordable, which eventually made the type targeted by the 1968 Gun Control Act. Cartridge Variations: The .25’s cartridge case could have been lengthened to produce a few variations. Practicality is that nothing would be different over time as we would have grown up with the .25 caliber round for everything. RevolverGuy is the gentleman’s corner of the internet and such insults, even when made in jest, can easily be misinterpreted without the nuances of voice intonation, body language, and facial expression.

That’s what I’ve been told by people who’ve tried the CCI load. After reading this I went outside where I have a new 55 gallon barrel.

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I too would live in that word! No Reserve. Revolver forums are full of arguments about the need for moon clips on .25 guns. With a more substantial cartridge case, it would not have to be loaded to its original 1887 black powder standards. .

Today I’d like to propose a thought experiment. Ha, not in this universe!

Let's find out. Leaving service after eight years in the U.S. Marines, Justin continues his involvement with a variety of government agencies to this day. My 10/22, along with thousands of other .22’s owned by Californians, is now almost useless. But with a little help from Starline Brass with a 25 magnum I think they would set the world on fire! (cough, cough) . What’s next? I remember seeing an article in a 1970s gun magazine on miniature guns and the creme de la creme was a half scale Thompson SMG…in .25ACP. It might be OK for soda cans at 15 yds, but try hunting with it and you might be disappointed. The 1986 Miami FBI Shootout made revolvers look antiquated and not up to the job. . By 1922 Remington is on board and releases its Model 24 self-loader only in .25 ACP. Besides, the 22 LR is one of the most fantastic cartridges out there – cheap, easy to learn, and lifts weight far greater than one would expect from such a diminutive little thing. Sorry, I haven’t been around. I got her an android (that she still has) so she could call home. Thank you.

Analogs to our carry revolvers are chambered in .25 ACP. Reliability: I know the .22 isn’t as unreliable as it often gets made out to be. You’d say the same thing in reverse! Below, you will see the proposed “25 Winchester Rimmed Long” and “25 Winchester Rimmed Magnum”. Scalability: This is probably the most important thing for most shooters. I shot it once with a .22 LR Beretta and once with a .25 Beretta. more flaws than we can name, but we still ‘buy’ em. Centerfire ammo lines are much more versatile. Potentially, the rimmed variants could incorporate an extractor groove, enabling the use of 25acp in 25 WRL/WRM repeaters.”, See my post on the “I’m With Roscoe” Facebook page for pictures. The .25 caliber was the smallest case Browning could use that still had space for a primer pocket. Would .25 revolvers come with moon clips?

Rimfire ammunition has to be produced on special machinery, designed specifically for producing rimfire ammunition. It could also be marketed as the 6.35×16mmR for metric fans. You can’t read an article about the defensive use of the .25 without someone saying, “the .25 has killed more people than any other cartridge!”. I can not imagine life without cheap .22LR ammunition to feed a Ruger 10/22, a Super Single Six, a Ruger Mark I, a S&W .22 kit gun. What we got is what we got, and I doubt Ruger will be coming out with a 10/25 or we’ll ever see a “training” AR-15 in in .25, or a “quarter caliber” S&W Model 48. Though a larger, more capable pistol is always better, a gun that can easily fit in a pocket is key to program compliance — having a gun on you when you need it.

The cartridge was designed to duplicate the performance of a .22 Long Rifle cartridge, when fired from a two-inch barrel. The .380 ACP has made a comeback. I can’t imagine a life without the humble .22LR!

Pocket pistols are the mainstay of the concealed carry market today.

She is currently a 63 year old ‘screen junkie’ that’s as bad as some teenagers when it comes to spending time on her android. I can definitely see where he’s going with it. The mind boggles. View all posts by Justin. Honestly, the only reason we’re stuck with is because…well, we’re stuck with it. The .25 ACP cartridge produces more pressure than a .22 LR and less than a .22 WMR, so it's a safe conversion. This improved its use for rifles but the idea of putting it in small pistols took off. Though the .25 ACP was designed for semi-automatic pistols, various .25 ACP revolvers were produced in the early twentieth century by Belgian, French, and German gunmakers such as Adolph Frank and Decker. Half the reason for the massive price hikes and lack of availability of .22 a couple of years ago was due largely to an increase in demand, but a very finite production capability. The old adage of one in the chest and two in the head and even the jolly green giant will fall down may be able to use less ammo. Interesting. A box of 50 goes right into my hand. Now I’m dreaming of it again. I’d get questions like ‘So, would you let me shoot you with it?’ Reply-‘No, and I wouldn’t let you run over me with a Smart Car; but I wouldn’t recommend it for daily transportation, either.’, But–uh oh–I do kinda wonder what could be done with a .25 in a carbine…… Ace, You’re right – maybe I should have called it a “human gun”
The .380 ACP round made a comeback in newly designed handguns that were comparable to the tiny .25s in size, but with much more punch. Why? It would still headspace on the rim giving it all the advantages of that type of head-spacing, especially in revolvers. My .25 ACP experience is limited, and it ended about 35 years ago, so I learned something new today. We might also have seen .25 Winchester +P rounds on the market.

has seriously missed out on something unique and wonderful in the shooting world. Well, a few things I think. The 25 just was not necessary anymore. Raven MP-25 .25 ACP Chrome with faux mother of pearl grips and push up safety.

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